Australian Family Law Podcast

A Lawyer and a Mediator Walk into a Bar

Unlikely drinking buddies. Candid conversations about separation and divorce in Australia.

Grab a stool at the bar with family mediator Dianne Loveday and family lawyer Paula Appelhans. Each episode tackles real questions about separation and family life – everything from sharing care of the kids and deciding who keeps the dog to dividing property and recognising coercive control. Expect warmth, straight talk and no legal jargon.

About the Show

Two bar stools. Two professionals. Different perspectives and plenty to talk about. Join Principal Mediator Dianne Loveday and practising family lawyer Paula Appelhans as they talk through the messy realities of separation. The house, the money, the parenting arrangements – and the questions people aren’t always sure how to ask.

Do we need to go to court? How much do lawyers or mediators cost? How do we work out the kids, the house… the dog? Each episode, Dianne and Paula unpack what the law says, where mediation and Family Dispute Resolution can help, and when legal advice matters – straight answers from different sides of the bar.

Whether separation is just on your mind or you’re in the thick of it, there’s a seat at the bar for you – and the conversation you wish you’d heard sooner.

Dianne Loveday

Dianne Loveday

Principal Mediator, Bayside Mediation

Paula Appelhans

Paula Appelhans

Family Lawyer

A Lawyer and a Mediator Walk into a Bar podcast cover art — hosts at a bar

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I have been enjoying listening to episodes over the last few weeks and really appreciate the tone and focus you both bring… I really appreciate the fact that the two of you equally privilege mediation and the legal side of divorce. Congratulations on a fantastic podcast that I’m sure is helping a large number of people going through the most difficult time of their life.

They are brilliant! I really enjoy watching and listening to your podcasts and I love your honesty and how direct you are with all the topics you cover, especially about trying to amicably come to a resolution.

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